The character played by Hilary Swank in the 2007 movie The Reaping was based partially on my work as a miracle detective. Now that also put me through some struggles because we were already close friends at that point. The way people like the stories highlights their way of thinking and provides a teachable moment about like why don't we trust claims just from the claims, even if it has a peer-reviewed journal article. It's a long story. And sometimes there's also a catch-22 because after so many years the medical documentation has been discarded. The university has retained Spencer Stuart to assist in this search. Thus we will more often hear from the healing crowd. The analogy doesn't work, and honestly I think this is a miracle talking-point that Elijah is misusing here. But there are other cases were the person had been dead for eight hours. Scott Rae: That's staggering to think about. Barbara (Burns) Snyder, age 92, of Elmira, NY, passed away Friday, November 18, 2022 at her home. Thu 03 February 2022 Scott Rae: Close, Medine. It doesn't matter whether the claim is religious or scientific, the same rules apply. If this is the Marolyn Ford case, which I think it is, then we have to consider that she worked in a church for that amount of time, and obviously got prayed for many times with no effect, and only got the healing after many years. But my wife and I have also been through a series of miscarriages. We're all aware of suffering in the world, but miracles is a happy topic. Visit Pure Flix for access to thousands of faith and family friendly movies and TV shows. Studies of distant intercessory prayer have been essentially negative we see the typical random scatter of results expected of an ineffective treatment, with no consistent pattern of positive results, and with the best studies being negative. The Surfaris were a California garage band with an average age of 15 who had been successful enough playing at sock hops and house parties that they were able to acquire a manager. Hey, thanks for listening. I just was trying to write a footnote for my Acts Commentary because one of the arguments against the reliability of Acts, you know, one fifth of Acts or one third of Mark roughly, deal with miracles. Near death experiences are only reported within religions that support dualism. To this day.. Certainly, Jesus gave a bright future to Barbara Snyder in 1981. And then if so, then how do you account for that? Without further data, it is impossible to rule out these things, but you'd think the data would be available with something this recent? On the one hand they use the excuse of "it's not replicable" when asked about how to test it, and on the other hand they want to also say that miracles are common -- more common than people realize. The Mayo Clinic had diagnosed Barbara with multiple sclerosis. President Barbara R. Snyder is president of the Association of American Universities. Some initial thoughts Time stamp 4:47 James is right that the evidence on a lot of these cases is really really bad. This is the reason the specifics matter. Which I agree with, at least technically. In chair James C. Wyant said that Fred DiSantoan alumnus and trustee who begins Scott Rae: When we meet the Lord face to face. Nathan: I think what we're seeing here are the fruits of apologetics in some ways. prayer, laying of hands, religious service, etc) where miracles are claimed to be happening but they happen in only a small part of those same contexts and there's not a good reason give for that difference. Craig Keener: Yeah, she came on a fiance visa, which unfortunately took a bit longer than it should have because by the time we finally made up our minds to get together 9/11 happened right when we were getting ready to send the materials in. my peers call to work on behalf of all of our institutions.. Craig Keener: Yeah, I could give you a 1000 pages worth of examples, but I'll tell you one that really blew my mind and that was, because it was something so close to us. And now she has a Masters degree from the seminary in Cameroon. Barbara Rook "Babs" Snyder is an American academic and president of the Association of American Universities. administrators, including President Snyder herself. And then I said "In Jesus's name, Amen" and so we moved on. The bias is on the person making the positive claim. Healings, casting out spirits, nature miracles in Mark and so on. She did it. He didn't see any fire so people are getting [inaudible] what's this about? To mix them makes it much harder to determine what's going on. Share it with a friend. Some were tested in prosperity. Eventually I found some of it, but what surprised me was the dramatic nature of some of this. It is quite clear that once you allow one miraculous healing in, using evidence of just one person, then one has to let in a whole host of others. As I've said before, the fact that there are no videos of this sort is strong evidence against the veracity of miracles. But in some places Like I had a student from India, a doctor of ministry student, who said almost everybody that he prays for in India gets healed. Join Facebook to connect with Barbara Snyder and others you may know. 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I don't believe Barbara Snyder was cured by the intervention of some agent outside the natural world. Snyder ended up in hospice care with a no-resuscitation order; she was nearly blind, her hands and body were curled and she had a tube in her throat to help her breath as well as a tube in her stomach to ensure proper nourishment. She was miraculously healed. He is the F.M. It would seem that these people are constantly dealing with skeptics, and the easiest way to address it would be to get the pre- and post- medical test data rather than a summary by one doctor, after the fact. After all the investigations and scrutiny of the numerous claims, not one single credible and fully verified healing by God or any other non-existent deity . but there comes a point when enough is enough. A gymnast back in high school, Barbara hadn't walked in seven years. Craig Keener: Yeah, and by the time Yeah and eventually it was over a 1000. James Fodor compares healing claims to homeopathy -- we have millions claiming an effect, and if we just counted those then we might be convinced that homeopathy was a real treatment. He is, let's just say he is one of the most prolific biblical scholars that I'm aware of and is so productive. As James says, "God really needs to up his game.". Synder's miraculous healing, which unfolded more than 30 years ago, was apparently so shocking that even her doctors have written about her seemingly impossible medical turnaround. She talked about when here daughter Terese was two years old that she cried out that she had been bitten by a snake and by the time her mother had got to her she found her not breathing. Her feet and fingers were suddenly straight and normal again. in social ethics from the University of Southern California, a Th.M. Some of them, some of the critiques were based on an interview with me that was published in Christianity Today, rather than the book itself. Get Charisma's best content delivered right to your inbox! I could just as well say that her brushing her teeth caused the healing, because she was healed in the evening shortly after she brushed her teeth. [4], Following the announcement that Gordon Gee would retire as President of the Ohio State University effective July 1, 2013, speculation arose that Snyder, the former Provost and Executive Vice President of Ohio State, could succeed Gee. A prolific author, he has written numerous bible commentaries and other works in biblical studies, in addition to his 2 volume work, Miracles. Here's where consistency comes in and the desiderata of Jaynes. When his wife prayed, having been told that he was gone, the heart monitor "sprang back to life" and then the doctors were able to revive him. A legal scholar, Snyder was the first woman to serve as the Case Western's president. Sorry! So Craig thanks so much for being with us. Scott Rae: So tell Give our listeners a story from the U.S. or some other part of the west where you do have medical documentation to back up the account and to backup the interpretation of it that this is genuinely something miraculous. 5 John Wilkes Booth's Brother and Abe Lincoln's Son . So as you've cataloged these different stories and different accounts, what's been the sort of the breath of the geography that's been involved? The primary studies here are Case Studies, which are some of the lowest and least informative types of studies in medicine (see https://guides.library.stonybrook.edu/evidence-based-medicine/levels_of_evidence) with Meta-studies, Systematic reviews, and Randomized Controlled Studies being the most effective forms. Scott Rae: Nabeel Qureshi, for the sake of our listeners who might not be aware of him, was one of the most, the most compelling apologists to Islam having converted to Christianity out of Islam himself. The answer is simple none. Barbara Snyder is another one that's not in the book. Given Keener's habits of simplifying and distorting the actual original claims, and the demonstration throughout all of this that his standards for evidence are terribly low, it calls into question is entire 1300 page book on miracles. Why not? Scott Rae: Well that gets us to the books that I want to talk more about today. Adding to that, he had some skepticism about some of the charlatans who have been exposed for making false claims about healings and the like. Could you imagine a similar claim written about, say, a homeopathic remedy for cancer? for her new role. Also we need to know what happens when there is no treatment as a control. But I heard this one from somebody who worked with Craig Evans, followed up with Barbara Snyder and her doctors and passed this onto Lee Strobel, who followed up on this too. Here's my comment. And he said because these precious people that never had a chance to be exposed to God's extravagant love, He works in extravagant ways to let them know. In his most recent book, Strobel decided to look at miracles. He has a Ph.D. and M.A. It's in American History, which is not, well there's a lot of Americans who can teach American History, so she especially teaches French. Once you admit that getting a pool table after prayer is a miracle, then you've admitted that your standards of evidence are outrageously poor. But we also had the medical documentation. It's not just saying that the evidence provided is lacking, but there is missing evidence that would be expected on the truth of the claim -- making it an argument against the claim. So welcome. I was talking with Antoinette Malumbay with my wife translating for me 'cause my wife knew the story only second hand herself. She earned her bachelors degree from OSU. Patients in the prayer group had less congestive heart failure, fewer cardiac arrests, fewer episodes of pneumonia, were less often intubated and ventilated, and needed less diuretic and antibiotic therapy. In this case, Shermer's argument is that there is a context (e.g. This pretty much summarizes the problems with this study. He encountered scores of healings and other claims of the miraculous along the way, but there was one case in particular that truly blew his mind: the case of Barbara Snyder. In fact, history is full of bizarre coincidences that get downright creepy . research universities in the U.S., as well as two in Canada. So it was just going to be a footnote, but as I researched it more and more it grew more and more. He's effectively asked "look, according to your explanation we would expect miracles to occur actually in many more cases because god apparently has the the reasons and the motivation and the context for him to perform miracles there but he doesn't, so there's a plausibility issue there with with your explanation" Shermer's identified one aspect that seems to be accounted for poorly on the miracle explanation. Nathan's point here is interesting, especially in light of the idea that the murderer example is not being used in the right place, that Elijah has this set of standard "tools" that he pulls out but doesn't seem to understand their use or limitations and is prone to misapply them. Thinking about the Snyder "miracle", I do wonder why in these cases there isn't much more extensive medical documentation? Honestly, this mistake is primarily due to sloppy reporting -- if you are reporting a set of numbers in a study, especially if you are establishing a timeline of events, you need to make it clear when some numbers are not comparable. It's not something to feel badly about. I mean that would almost qualify as a resurrection. What really annoys me is when they say "I could show you cases of arms growing back theoretically speaking and you would not believe it" when the best evidence they have barely rises to the level of being interesting, let alone something amazing like this. Sean McDowell, Timothy Pickavance, Scott RaeFebruary 27, 2023, Sean McDowell, Scott RaeFebruary 16, 2023, Sean McDowell, Scott RaeFebruary 09, 2023. I went over her solutions when she did , Skepticism and Dubious Medical Procedures. It's just his Baptist church group from just like maybe a half a dozen people to 600 members from, almost all from non-Christian backgrounds. I had a lot of connections with Africa, different parts of Africa. Whining that it's hard is just lame. It is interesting the Elijah seems to understand that we need evidence to believe a claim, that we need to weigh alternative hypotheses, but he seems to have no idea what a controlled study is or why it is necessary. This article was originally published on Pure Flix Insider. We don't get to choose what our test is. A doctor won't want to look at a regrown kidney because it will look like he did insurance fraud. From my reading also, MS can also go into spontaneous remission -- usually temporary -- but we don't have any follow-ups, detailed timelines documented, etc We have stories. Converted to Pelican theme by Brian Blais. We really appreciate your taking the time to come be on the podcast with us. These two cases are some of the best they have, and they are only modestly interesting, and have plausible mundane explanations. I don't think that there's an abridged version of that coming out anytime soon. Barbara was married to the late Robert L. Snyder. But if you're that kid you've got to go what's more probable: an event that just randomly happened or the God that prayed I was praying to gave me my sight back, and so that is a part of the conversation. The point is to first establish that there is some interesting effect there, regardless of the cause, and only after passing that threshold do we get to consider a more in-depth investigation. Millions of unique designs by independent artists. I doubt Keener has tried to actually get this done beyond the anecdotal level. The Association of American Universities (AAU), Fostering and Protecting Free Speech on Campus, Renew Investments in Vital Scientific Infrastructure, AAU Universities Battle the Opioid Crisis, Progress Toward Achieving Systemic Change, The Strategic Role of a National Organization. Even if miracles could be the case, regardless of your worldview, how would you be able to demonstrate that God did it? Today we can point to solid finances, Secondly we're talking about these things objectively, put yourself in situations where you can have experiential knowledge: pray for sick people that you know they would not be healed unless God showed up. Both great books that I encourage all of our listeners to get hold of and to digest. This is pretty silly. The problem is trying to determine whether a particular action or treatment actually causes the subsequent (positive) results. The latter has more eyewitness testimony than we have for Barbara Snyder. It still could fit James, Chapter Five or gifts of healings for those of us who believe in that. Bad Apologetics Ep 20 - Miracles & even MORE even NEWER Resurrection evidence, Unbelievable? Try comparing these claims to, say, the difficulty in confirming the Higgs boson, gravity waves, black holes, or the accelerating universe. episode: Is there medical evidence for miracles? Yeah. It's just like a lack of imagination there's just like Christian fundamentalism and there's atheist naturalism and there's no other world views, apparently. Is it possible to start by eliminating the theistic hypothesis? "So she basically pulls the tube out of her throat, says, 'Go find my parents' [and] jumps out of bed.". It's part of the lowering of the standards of evidence. However, after analyzing several miracles Strobel is convinced they are. And she'd also gone blind. And sometimes, well it's wonderful when God does it and when he doesn't we still know that we have that hope. In addition to Case Western Reserve, all There is nothing even close to an arm growing back. it's hard to trust someone who says things like this, when we know that the measurement afterward was 20/100 -- far from perfect. I mean it's only a fraction of what's out there, but there was a Pew Forum Study done in, I think, 2006 of Pentecostals and Charismatics in 10 countries that concluded Well if you look at the percentages of Pentecostals and Charismatics who claimed to have witnessed divine healing and then the hard numbers of those in those countries, it comes out to somewhere around 200 million people in those 10 countries alone, who claim to have witnessed are experienced divine healing. Some were tested in persecution. But theists show no interest in doing this, they're satisfied with the first bad study that confirms what they already believe. So even when, you know it doesn't happen to all of us. We have seen this with acupuncture after well-controlled trials were negative, some proponents decided that pragmatic (i.e. #unbelievable Yeah, I think of my friend Nabeel Qureshi. And of course, accounts from the west, it was easier to get the medical documentation so there were strengths with a lot of these. Each of those people are in the same position as the boy Elijah speaks about and will certainly attribute a God-given miracle to their healing. You can get a free, one-month trialhere. One This article wasoriginally published on Pure Flix Insider. You can get a free, one-month trial here. And this is not by any means the most dramatic story I found. We know better now, and we often know what the minimum amount of data is to justify a particular claim. If that agent were doing these kinds of actions we would expect to see a bigger effect, or that agent is being capricious. Skepticism is basically that we proportion our belief to the evidence, and we've found (through science) that to do it we need to disbelieve most claims, that we need to acknowledge our biases, and to recognize that even the scientific process is limited. If you took our remedy, and improved, we want to hear from you. And when you dig in and you start interviewing some of the people and looking at some of the medical documentation, we're not talking about a little bit of evidence. Craig Keener: Yeah. (Read also:Columbine survivors powerful lessons after facing terror). None of these steps are taken in any of these cases. Now you got to go work! Scott Rae is professor of Christian ethics and dean of the faculty at Talbot School of Theology. candidates for its presidency.. Craig Keener: Thanks so much for having me Scott. I cook breakfast sandwich and lunch sandwichs I'm also a cashier. We don't know the timeline at all or the specifics, or any actual measurements. This is totally expected on naturalism, but not expected under theism. Taking the story as the evidence is problematic. Feel free to reach out if you want more specifics on a given quote or study. And it's all very well documented too. his term as board chair this Junewill lead a national search for her Bladder and stomach control were lost. maybe we can study this" That's how a lot of science is done, it starts with "oh wow, that's weird" and then we can go and start testing it but theists don't seem to even want to take that next step. These steps are in place to get at the truth, not to specifically put up barriers to rule out miracles. Personally I like looking into the details of miracle claims because they spotlight the scientific process, when it is misused or when people try to use the authority of science but don't want to go through the admittedly hard work to earn it. We have previously pointed out that the kind of coincidences you'd dismiss as bad writing if you saw them in a movie happen all the time in real life. It also highlights the need for detailed timelines to establish what the effect really is, before trying to grasp at causes. Look, I have male pattern balding. I am delighted that the board selected Barbara to lead AAU He became a Christian in 1981 shortly after he decided to investigate Jesus and the Christian faith after his wife became a Christian. He became a Christian in 1981 shortly after he decided to investigate Jesus . Stanford and Johns Hopkins University. I also think that there is a two-stage process for investigating these and similar processes (i.e. I could show you cases of arms growing back theoretically speaking and you would not believe it you would come up with natural explanations. Visit Pure Flix for access to thousands of faith and family friendly movies and TV shows. Craig Keener: I think it's true in some places more than in others. This one is much like the previous one, but there is no study -- just the stories. The situation was pretty hopelessuntil something quite shocking happened. Find your thing. Scott Rae: Because I mean by any medical definition she had died. an 18-year-old female lost the majority of her central vision over the course of three months in 1959 and was later diagnosed with juvenile macular degeneration (JMD). ago James: Shermer's essential point is how do you distinguish charlatans from real miracles and the answer is well you weigh up the evidence and you look at the best explanation. What would happen if two people out in space a few meters apart, abandoned by their spacecraft, decided to wait until gravity pulled them together? Can we come to any agreement here? You wont want to miss Scotts interview with Dr. Craig Keener, renowned New Testament scholar, who has done in depth research on miracles today. 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