Is this really a legitimate reason for excommunication? Regarding my membership in the Church and feelings regarding its leaders: My membership in the Church is valuable and important to me. publicly making the corrections.". It depends upon the spiritual needs of the person. I have not only offered this in writing but several times in our conversations in our October 19, 2014 and November 2, 2014 SP was the one who cancelled. the free agency of members of the church. Procedures are given for settling important difficulties in the Church, D&C 102 (D&C 42:8093). be more open." This is especially true in light of my verbal and written promise and In the spring of 2013, Jeremy was approached and asked by a CES Director to share his questions and concerns about the LDS Church's origins, history, and current practices. The church does not like individuals asking questions about its truth claims. ", "Author Jeremy Runnells Resigns From LDS Church At Excommunication Hearing In American Fork", "Jeremy Runnells and His Letter to a CES Director", "Inside the Secret Facebook War For Mormon Hearts and Minds", "The Trials of YouTube Jesus: A Mormon Apostate Fighting for His Family", "Author of 'Letter to a CES Director' resigns from Mormon church", "Author of 'Letter to a CES Director' out of LDS Church after disciplinary council", "Jana Riess: This is your brain on Mormon Facebook", "Understanding Mormon Disbelief: Why do some Mormons lose their testimony, and what happens to them when they do? Upon its public release, CES Letter went viral and immediately became a Mormon internet phenomenon, providing validation and support to tens of thousands of questioning current and former LDS Church members. I entertained the answers of unofficial apologists. Second, the Handbook is clear that the accused is allowed to have witnesses. ", Elder Ballard pointed to the church's essays (https://www.lds.org/topics/essays) and instructed his We were all temple recommend holders, and they were treating us like we had baseball bats or something.. Sep 17, 2018, 07:09 PM EDT. They were wrong about Mark Hofmann's fraud and forgeries. listeners to "know the content in these essays like you know the back of your hand.". Updating the CES Letter Jeremy later received, through his attorney, an April 20, 2016 confirmation letter from the LDS Church verifying his resignation: "I don't know how to repent of the truth. Another witness, Jody England Hansen, was told that each witness would be restricted to a three-minute time limit, which is also nowhere in the Handbook. learn and trust before He gives answers in His way, according to His timetable and on His terms. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, The, Signs of the Birth and Death of Jesus Christ. So I believe that it is at the discretion of each Bishop what penelty they will assign. The February 28th cancellation of the March 20th court has nothing to do with my grandfather's passing. Runnells publicly announces the latest updates (screenshot): Many of you have emailed me or contacted me to ask for an update on the LDS Church's Excommunication attempts against me. All I wanted was the truth. involvement. A tragedy for the children short term, but Sam's courage and sacrifice has drawn more attention than the church will ever be able to repel through threats and bullying of activists and concerned members. Explore your doubts. This means the papyri did not come from Abraham's own hand as Joseph and the church claimed the last 175 or so Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Member of Even the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Gender issues. i thought every state had their own rules as to what constituted a common law marriage, if they awknowledged them at all. whether or not they want to commit their hearts, minds, time, talents, income, and lives to Mormonism.". Yes I've witnessed appalling things said to the faithful in workplaces and heard the media's taunts. See PDF of Runnells' attorney's letter.]. ", Surprised by the sudden sense of urgency on Ivins' part, Runnells asked Ivins what the meeting was in regards to. crazy but factual anti-free agency story of an angel with a sword threatening Joseph Smith with destruction if he didn't practice polygamy. My direct contact information is listed below. Church members can be excommunicated if they apostatize from church teachings. They just keep punching themselves in the face don't they. answers from the church as promised me by its CES Director three years ago. I want to add that I trust that you will be fair to me and will follow These values are ingrained into my own DNA. I have sat in on both disfellowship and probation courts, but our Bishop also worked with some youth by himself and placed them on probation. Church really fucked up here, this is making waves. To the best of my knowledge, everything posted in the CES Letter and on my website is completely accurate and solidly based in Church history. If the person is bitter and wants to be excommunicated, then it will happen. Yesterday's prophets, seers, and revelators were not only wrong on so many important doctrines and claimed revelations - they It doesnt come from the example of Jesus. In the USA, a "one night stand" is considered a "common-law marriage." Upon re-reading Ivins email, Runnells sees that it's not clear as to whether the March 15, 2016 meeting is still on. So, for example, you can open up the transcripts to audio recordings in a Third, Ive never heard of a time limit being preset for a hearing. fellow Saints and disciplining any of them who had questions, he saw that it was his pastoral duty to be an advocate for them and to help elevate those In the mid-20th century the church began to forcefully discipline Mormon intellectuals who challenged the orthodox view of history. Salt Lake City, UT: Signature Books. LDS Church members have reached out to Runnells after reading the CES Letter. history. My friend later became a bishop. I need to communicate via email as it's easier for me than over the phone (I'm still hard of hearing and Where I have erred or made mistakes, I have publicly corrected. Below that lies the seven-man Presidency of the Seventy, which presides over the General Authority Seventies, who are referred to collectively as the Brethren and have church-wide jurisdiction. ", https://www.facebook.com/runnells/posts/10158069407958737, "With its gentler approach, FAIR drops its snarky videos aimed at LDS Church critics", "Marvel Removes Anti-Mormon Reference from 'Amazing Spider-Man' Comic", "These Mormon twins worked together on an IRS whistleblower complaint over the church's billions and it tore them apart", "Mormons, Here's Why I Published the Revelations About the LDS Church's $100 Billion Stockpile", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeremy_Runnells&oldid=1141515508, This page was last edited on 25 February 2023, at 12:50. I'm really touched by that. Take notice that several of the above quotes invite and encourage investigation. After the above press release by the CES Letter Foundation, Runnells emailed Ivins the following 3:25pm email (screenshot): My response to your news can be read here: https://cesletter.org/lds-church-postpones-court-of-love-against-jeremy-runnells.html. I listened to most of the two interviews they did with John Dehlin totaling 8+ hours, including a recording of their church court. What errors or mistakes are there in the 'CES Letter' or on my website that I can publicly correct? Dear Bishop (fill in last name) This letter is my formal resignation from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day. Ivins attempts to take their conversation away from light of transparency to dark of secrecy, Ivins attempts to censor Runnells and CES Letter by demanding censorship and removal from Mormon Marketplace of Information, "If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. Posted on Jun 18, 2014 This month (June 2014), two Mormons who have been critical of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints received letters from church officials threatening them with possible excommunication. truth. and what took place. Your words above ring extremely hollow in light of your consistent refusal to answer legitimate and reasonable questions. Back row: Andy Parker. David was excommunicated the day after his brother-in-law Oliver Cowdery had likewise been cut off from the Church. You can do this as an advocate and stand with your fellow members in searching for truth or you can stand over them in judgment. Ultimately, Ivins reversed his ban on the interpreter in the meeting but blindsided Runnells with the reversal only after the social media firestorm and only after Runnells came walking to him in the Stake Center to the disciplinary council with his own interpreter. Such things as murder, adultery, sexual perversion, or any other serious offense that resulted in a conviction by civil courts such as a felony. I was contacted by a CES Director in March 2013 to share my questions and concerns regarding the LDS church and its foundational truth claims. questions that I asked them. the LDS Church in their attempts to character assassinate Jeremy Runnells' name, integrity, and character through their extremely vague accusations and Escrito en 27 febrero, 2023. . I wasn't the village idiot. activities of the Church such as Father and Son outings, Halloween activities, Christmas activities, etc. "No interpreter or any representative will be allowed to attend with you. Excommunicated persons can, however, rejoin the fold by being rebaptized. But go ahead, bash away. correct any mistakes and errors in the CES Letter or website, the church would be telling the world that it is not interested in honesty, transparency, and To excommunicate me is an atrocious grotesque injustice. Jana Spangler, one of several women who flew in from Utah to support Natasha and serve as the witnesses the Church Handbook says the accused can have, said the reception was chilly to say the least. It is up to the discretion of the presiding authority. I believe President J. Reuben Clark when he said: "If we have the truth, no harm can come from investigation. It told you that you were at heart evil and immoral and only by subordinating your conscience to their decrees could you see yourself as a good person. I have seen hats but no cattle. I would like to keep our appointment to meet on March 15th and then schedule Ivins initially refused to disclose the reason ", "The honest investigator must be prepared to follow wherever the search of truth may lead. - Book of Abraham. truth crisis. My wife will not be attending but I will be bringing an ASL interpreter to ensure that I understand 100% of everything that is said in our meeting. Jeremy T. Runnells is a critic of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church) and author of the book titled A Letter to a CES Director (later renamed CES Letter). excommunication when I have done nothing wrong and have sought official answers to my questions and concerns about church essay verified problems through Does a bishop have the authority to disfellowship someone in his ward without informing them? CES Letter has been downloaded an estimated 600,000 times to date, and over 12,000 LDS Church members have reached out to Runnells after reading the CES Letter. An in-depth look at every individual excommunicated by Jesus Christ in scripture, High-profile excommunications may harm Mormon retention rates in the long run. was telling you were "anti-Mormon lies.". Gone are the days when a student raised a I'm not alone here. I have expressed my position on cesletter.org: "I believe that members and investigators deserve all of the information on the table to be able to make a fully informed and balanced decision as to You likewise refused to answer and clarify. nowit's a "privilege to work with [me]"? accordingly. What have I done wrong? Your link has been automatically embedded. Here is Fox 13's coverage of Jeremy Runnells and the press conference: LDS author says he faces excommunication after writing 'Letter to a CES Director'. Upon its public release, CES Letter went viral and immediately became a Mormon internet phenomenon, providing validation and support to tens of I even went into the trenches with one of them that took me close to 900 pages worth of content in Prior to sending my 80 page letter to the CES Director, I shared the letter with folks on Facebook and Reddit for editing and feedback purposes in my They are the common judge and will be responsible for the judgements that they hand down. that all of the claims made above by its leaders along with Ballard's "master the essays" are ultimately just empty words. Will you appeal this? disciplinary council scheduled for March 20th 2016 is cancelled. As we also agreed on the phone, please have your secretary arrange a time for me to come in on that date. refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false. The reason why my responses to FairMormon and other unofficial Mormon apologist attacks exist: to defend my name, character and integrity fromFairMormon's blatantly dishonest attacks, at full display on https://cesletter.org/debunking-fairmormon. /r/Mormon is a subreddit for articles and topics of interest to people interested in Mormon themes. cancelled disciplinary councils against me. I remind you of your written agreement to abide by Handbook and respectfully request that you treat me fairly by not holding a disciplinary council in my I felt they needed to know the truth about my resignation from myself, because rumours can & CES Letter Your generous donations are tax deductible and will go a long way in helping us to continue to help the honest-in-heart seekers. A few weeks later, President Ivins abruptly cancelled the March 20, 2016 disciplinary council. I am resigning because I no longer want to be a part of or associated with a fundamentalist religion that does not value and respect intellectual honesty, The intention of the website should not in any way be construed to exist for the purpose of hurting the Church or its being disciplined for moral failings (i.e. - Elder Steven E. Snow, Current Church Historian, The following is a leaked video/audio recording of the disciplinary council. Elder James J. Hamula, a member of the Quorum of the Seventy, was released and excommunicated, the @LDSchurch said. same sincere hard questions about the church's foundational truth claims. In fact, this essay went further than I did by admitting the theories promoting a bizarre version of Mormonism that Chapel Mormons would not recognize. Since our conversation two weeks ago, I have received [Attached to email was this Runnells Temple Worthiness PDF]. I am resigning because of the way the church treats me and other members who have sincere questions, concerns, and doubts. "I began to have these feelings of betrayal. Yesterday's doctrine is today's disavowed "theories". your website and other materials you have posted concerning the Church on the internet, are unwilling to stop trying to raise money for your endeavors Taylor Frankie Paul, 28, was arrested on February 17 after throwing a chair at boyfriend Dakota Mortensen. GEORGE, Utah (ABC4 News) - A former bishop of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced on his website that he was excommunicated over a podcast that frequently criticizes church history, policies and procedures. Earlier today before the Press Conference, Runnells received a job proposal from the LDS Church. PLEASE NOTE: If you do not see a GRAPHIC IMAGE of a family tree here but are seeing this text instead then it is most probably because the web server is not correctly configured t Some leaders, like Hans Mattsson, an area authority in Sweden, when President, I distinctly recall in our first October 19, 2014 meeting telling you things that were in direct opposition to Joseph Smith and his character. Imagine my shock, after waiting for your answers for a year and a half, to get a phone call from you instead telling me you wanted me to come in to The reference was in regards to a subject I am interested in and a personal decision I made in my life. ", "FairMormon's new satirical videos take on church critics, but does the humor miss the mark? A public press conference has been scheduled for Runnells on February 10th, 2016 at 7:00pm Mountain Time at 50 West Club & Cafe in downtown Salt Lake To this day, I have not been called to repentance and asked to correct any errors or mistakes in the CES Letter or on my website by you or any other The main response is in the attached PDF, which can be read below after email content: See attached PDF for my detailed response to your April 7, 2016 disciplinary court letter. However, in spite of my wish to avoid misunderstandings, apparently there may have already been one. I plan to continue to render service to members Handbook of Instruction 6.7.3, before holding any disciplinary action against me. It appears that you and the church are attempting to kill and silence the messenger rather than address the message. disciplinary court be held against me that week on Valentine's Day. Many wonder if the Additionally, its purpose is to have an open discussion Why still no answers? You never pointed out errors or mistakes in the CES Letter or cesletter.org for me to publicly correct, despite my multiple requests to you. The. LDS Church: No. Unfortunately, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If a Bishop recommends disfellowship does it have to then go to a Bishop's court? commissioned, or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen. We stand with you, Sam! However, if it continues, there are some that will issue a letter stating that a court will be held to determine their membership status. You have the authority and responsibility But again, this is really up to the Bishop. But if you are truly concerned about that, you may choose to provide your response in writing. But the world has changed in the As a direct result of FairMormon's personal attacks and dishonest claims, I found it necessary to create my current website to host my direct rebuttals and I had no idea what you were talking about or accusing foundational truth claims (e.g., Book of Mormon and Book of Abraham historicity, Joseph Smith's polygamy and polyandry, LDS priesthood restoration, without challenge or to defend myself. "These fragments date to between the third century B.C.E. truth claims problems. makes the presence of an interpreter a concern. Instead I'll just enjoy my complete refusal to go to any of their meetings. But you authorities on the subject have an answer I'm sure. Church's own foundational truth claims. If you decide to do so, please send me a written statement specifying the alleged errors or unfairness in the procedure or decision. If there are no errors or mistakes, why am I being punished for seeking and sharing the truth? April 22, 2021 By Jana Riess (RNS) Natasha Helfer, the Mormon therapist whose views on sexuality resulted in a disciplinary council on Sunday, has been excommunicated from the Church of Jesus. marketplace of information. "anti-Mormon lie.". No response ever came. Here is a sister - of ours (ALL members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints; hereafter "the Church) who has not maintained a close relationship with her leaders or community recently and seems perplexed that "people who do not even know me" are calling her to account with her (perceived) "contrary to the doctrines of the Church" pronouncements. Front row: Jody England Hansen. opinions in the church. As of Thursday, more than 200 health-care professionals signed a letter to the stake president saying they are concerned that withdrawing Helfer's membership will create a culture of stigma and. thousands of questioning current and former LDS Church members. Runnells receives a text message from Ivins' secretary asking if Runnells could come in to meet with Ivins in his church office in two days (January 26, murder me while refusing to answer the very reasonable questions I have asked you so many times the past year and a half. The CES Letter Foundation, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, is an entity that contributes to the Mormon marketplace of information. At the time I was presented with a choice: Allow FairMormon to continue to unfairly and dishonestly publicly tarnish my name, integrity and character FairMormon even lists more issues than the CES Letter does. Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham essay. Clear editor. I am confident that you will be able to hear and understand the proceedings. A vigil for Jeremy Runnells is being organized on Sunday, February 14, 2016 @ 7:00 pm Mountain Time at the American Fork Utah East Stake Center. Now, he faces excommunication. Advertisement cookies are used to provide visitors with relevant ads and marketing campaigns. It includes removal of a member's name from the records of the Church. I am resigning because I absolutely resent and am disgusted by the LDS Church's and President Ivins' treatment toward me and their attempts to spiritually 1.5 years of waiting for answers/corrections from Stake President Mark Ivins only to be met with silence, threats, and ultimately an excommunication Jeremy arrives at the American Fork East Stake Center @ 6pm and gives the following statement to the crowd gathered in the church parking lot before walking into his disciplinary council: Thank you all for coming tonight. Runnells' response to Ivins' above March 6, 2016 @ 8:19pm email is the following 11:45pm email (screenshot). Laura Pitkin, post-script to a letter from Vilate Kimball to Heber C. Kimball, July 18, 1840, cited in Susan Easton Black and Larry C. Porter, Martin Harris: Uncompromising Witness of the Book of Mormon (Provo, UT: BYU Studies, 2018), 315. We are free to think and express our Regardless, Runnells told Ivins that he has a family member in hospice, that now was not a good time for him, and that March 15th was the date The CES Letter outlines a large list of issues Runnells has with LDS Church beliefs and its historical narrative. It's pure, willful and conscious dismissiveness on the part of church leadership. See Book of Mormon Central, "Why Was Martin Harris Cut Off from the Church? He that sinneth and repenteth not shall be cast out, D&C 42:28. Church foundational truth claims. God himself refuses to trammel free agency even though its exercise sometimes teaches painful We use cookies on our website to give you the most relevant experience by remembering your preferences and repeat visits. I just wanted the truth. Also attached is my November 2, 2014 letter to you for your I have discovered, borrowing the above words of along with not including the church's essays. Additionally, I needed a centralized authorized place for people to Later this evening (February 9, 2016) @ 7:40pm, CES Letter Foundation issued a press release announcing the upcoming Valentine's Day disciplinary Kelly founded the group Ordain Women and has been active in leading marches and protests as she argues for a broader role for women in the Mormon church, including ordination as priests. You knew that I had a family member in hospice, which is why we agreed to March 15th in the first place. pam. But according to Spangler, thats apparently what this stake president did, communicating to the witnesses left outside in the parking lot that there would be one hour allotted and no more. I have in turn asked several of my own to you. last generation - with the access to information on the internet, we can't continue that pattern; I think we need to continue to These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. The bishop is appointed to be a judge in Israel, D&C 107:72. For the convenience of the reader, all links on this page opens in a new window. - Elder Hugh B. John Tracy Ellis, a historian.Lefebvre was excommunicated in 1988 after he consecrated four bishops for a new religious community. These actions and very vague insinuations felt like a character assassination attempt on the part of you and the church by insinuating that I was charges of apostasy. essay. Unfortunately, no response ever came. The very next morning after the press conference, Ivins sends Runnells the following 5:14am email to postpone the Valentine's Day disciplinary council Fox 13 did a piece on Runnells and the event: Runnells hilariously gets job proposal from LDS Church. Runnells stated that he would be happy to meet with Ivins on March 15, 2016. It is my position that if the Church seeks to remove my membership, it is committing a grotesque injustice by punishing me for seeking and sharing the You are the owner of your life and your identity. The main response is in the attached PDF, which can be read below after email content: Please see attached "Runnells Response to Stake President 3.11.16 Email" PDF. Whoa. I am aware that the So will questioning any of the claims of the church, such as the very standard egyptian burial diagrams at the end . Then help me. Indeed, I began seeking answers to my I had two meetings with you (Stake President) in the fall of 2014. President, I wrote the following in my November 2, 2014 letter to you: "It is my position that if the Church seeks to remove my membership, it is committing a grotesque injustice by punishing me for sharing the truth, most of The CES Director responded that he read the "very well written" letter and that he would provide Jeremy with a response. The easiest way to be excommunicated from the LDS religion is to have a liberal interpretation of LDS doctrine. the blessings of the Temple because of what the Race and the Priesthood I am trying to understand why you are not answering the following questions I have asked you over and over and over the past year and a half: I have answered your questions and I have outlined my defenses and reasoning to your accusations against me. It takes considerable time, effort, man hours, money and resources to contribute to the conversation in the Mormon marketplace of information. What in the world? electronic or otherwise. at 7:30pm; please confirm your attendance. Elder's Quorum email list to be notified of service opportunities and I have given service several times. via email. new window while listening to the audio recording on this page. - President J. Reuben Clark, "Some struggle with unanswered questions about things that have been done or said in the past." If you resign, then you reclaim power over your life but the reality of the close-knit culture of Mormonism and the result of years of leaders reinforcing the idea that apostates are immoral and under Satans influence means that the Church still gets the parting shot of controlling the narrative of your exit. To claim or imply that the acceptance of donations is wrong for CES Letter Foundation but totally okay for organizations like FairMormon It is my sincere hope that your next email to me will contain answers that I have been asking you for - many times - over the past year and a As I wrote in my last email to you on March 24th: "It is my sincere hope that your next email to me will contain answers that I have been asking you for - many times - over the past year and a letter. This was why I sought the help of the CES Director. disturbing. I would need to receive that document at least three days before the council.". - Jeremy Runnells, author of the popular Letter to a CES Director (also known as CES Letter), has been summoned to a disciplinary council I think that a bishops court is required for things like adultry, and murder and more then likely other felonious charges. I don't want you to go to the trouble or expense of obtaining an ASL interpreter. It was cold. 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