He was quiet, he didnt go anywhere, that wasnt like him. Lile picked up Spencer and talked to her and tried to comfort her as she lost consciousness during the wait for paramedics. Was possible life imprisonment the States best response to a case in which a girl had allegedly stabbed her mother to death and shot her father? Lynda Spence was taped to a chair in the loft of a flat in West Kilbride and tortured and murdered by Coats and Wade By James Cook Scotland Correspondent, BBC News The horror of Lynda Spence's slow. But you had no girlfriends? When Lancaster had seen her sitting in one of the prosecutors offices, he had known it would do no good to put her on the stand. Stout admitted to some hed had six to nine years earlier. Prosecutor Burnham knew the value of the confession, too. JAMAICAN immigrant Peter Spencer was fatally shot in mid-December in what his sister is calling a "modern-day lynching." 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There was a problem saving your notification. Share This Story. In some ways he gave his life for her.. I told him I didnt think it was a mistake. Copyright 2023, D Magazine Partners, Inc. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Meanwhile, Lile was back at home with his parents after breaking up with a girlfriend and once again finding himself between jobs. She then called her friend Anna and said something she couldnt remember. Grigson said it depended, but in some cases it would. If you want to put it that way. But the next day, doctors told Rudee there was nothing more they could do. And what a waste of talented actors such as Nick Mancuso and Mike Farrell. Spencer and Lile were taking a break from moving, standing outside near a tree, something Rudee said they did often. In fact, Anna, Lucindas best friend, continued to say that she didnt know anything about Lucindas role in the crimes, and that despite rumors to the contrary she hadnt heard Lucinda mention the idea of killing her parents before the crime was committed. Did yall meet Harry Stout somewhere last night? Burnham found a feisty foe in Mrs. Karl. It is a very straightforward, very classical case. It disputes Grigsons methodology on just about every count. When they found Lucinda standing over her father in the neighbors living room, Kleinmeir said Lucinda said Im crazy. His heart just burst I think, Gail Lile said. Williams, whose father was the poet Miller Williams, began writing songs after borrowing a guitar at age 12. Benjamine Spencer was 22 years old in 1987 when he was arrested for murder. We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. The confession, though it was oral and unsigned and taken under stress, was compelling. Did any relatives ask to come up and talk to Lucinda? When? But now you want us to believe what you testified to is the truth? She is also the only female juvenile in the history of the state to be indicted for murder. I was getting up. How late could she stay out? Steve Amis objected. And then the paramedic came back to the house and told me Id have to get out of the way. It had been taken in the presence of more than one officer and after the usual warnings that statements made under the circumstances could be used against Lucinda Stout in court. The young man really doesnt have an explanation for it. Lancaster reviewed the facts: 36-year-old Harry Stout, known as Bobby, and his wife Sharon, 34, had been assaulted in their home around midnight, June 10. "Right now, there is no one to vent that anger towards," JeromeStrange said. Thats how the murder of Sharon Stout became a Big M. But during a routine physical, doctors discovered he had high blood pressure, and they couldnt figure out why. No, sir. Spencer and Lile were taking a break from moving, standing outside near a tree, something Rudee said they did often. Lucindas second version of the events could not be introduced in testimony to dispute Stouts version, so the best Alexander could do in cross-examination was hint at motives Stout might have had for killing his wife and placing the blame on his daughter. The defense rested, not having made much headway. He had one of the biggest hearts of anyone Ive ever met.. Lucinda and her sister, Florinda bullied Cinderella from a young age, she, her sister, and the Wicked Stepmother all attend a ball, and Cinderella's main goal is to go as well. He said his mother had arrived to do the books about half an hour earlier. the Davis Family. All right. In the days that followed, Lara shared photos at physical therapy, working out with an exercise ball and doing leg and ab stretches. No, I dont think so. I dont know what the facts are. Once again, Anna said, Lucinda mentioned killing her parents. No. Liles extended family got to visit the rock last year when it was installed, with even his 92-year-old grandmother making it up the hill. Her father left the store for about an hour and a half. The daughters of former Virginia Gov. A 16-year-old girl, Brenda Spencer, who lived in a house across the street from the school, was convicted of the shootings. Lucinda Jarvis was a Murcilago that appeared in "Happily Ever Aftermath". Would that be in conflict in any way with what you believe to be the truth today? In those weeks Rudee got to know the man who was beside her friend in her last moments, and the two became friends in their own right. 2. After that weekend, Gail Lile said it appeared her son had turned a corner, and his spirits were much higher when he started work on May 7, 2018. Likewise, her beauty definitely added to the overall scenery as well. You did not? No, sir, I didnt. Do you know whether your wife did? I went down there and opened it up to help my nephew deliver a couple of trucks. By this time, the officers said, she appeared calm. Lucinda Strange, a mother of two, worked at a nearby hotel with her daughter and loved spending time with her children. The two were complementary: Lancaster was diminutive, a solid preparer and legal scholar. Thats all he could talk about, that it should have been him and not her, Rudee said. He believes his wife's death could have been a case of mistaken identity. Like public education, juvenile justice had to assume that learning began at home. Dont you know how you breathe? It has happened before. He held it together until he came home, she said. Lucinda Stout is the first adolescent female to be certified to stand trial as an adult in the countys history. He and his daughter had gone to the grocery of his friend Rudy Villasana about 9 p.m. to buy some meat for a party they were planning for the next night. Ladd goes around playing sexy and that's about it. See production, box office & company info. After she married Prince Charles, the eldest of Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip's four children, in July 1981, Diana Spencer's entire life became tabloid fodder, from marital intrigue to their divorce and its aftermath. She was a kind person and had been through lot in her life.. If you are in to dramas, it's definitely worth watching. Gail Lile said one weekend, her son broke. She had a good heart. broadcasts. She had a special little place out there she loved to go, Rudee said. Lucinda was monitored regularly by her godfather, Spencer Harrison, who gave her everything that she wanted to make sure she stayed distracted from her family. Never even said it in jest or jokingly. . Can a simple hour-and-half exam provide the basis for categorizing an individual as a sociopath? Anna, did Lucinda ever tell you she was going to kill her parents? Isn't it always when a bimbo marries a rich man? TORNADO DRILL: What Time Sirens Go Off In Kentucky 6th graders at Noe Middle School stage protest over Kentucky 'pronoun' bill, WDRB FCC Applications & Related Materials. No. I made $53,535. Under further questioning by the prosecutors, Robert went on to deny any knowledge of his fathers alleged extramarital affairs and the tension they had created in the household. And in 1977, an FBI report revealed that nearly half of all violent crime was committed by juveniles between the ages of 10 and 17. He still doesnt understand how somebody can send a kid to prison. Burnham objected strenuously, so Judge Mead decided to hear testimony outside the presence of the jury to make a determination on its admissibility. Although I didn't expect too much initially due to the made-for-television format, I was somewhat surprised by how well it kept my interest pretty much from start-to-finish. Henry Wades men play by the rules, and the first rule of all is Put your best evidence on first. So Burnham had scheduled the hearing on the admissibility of Lucindas confession first, and Bobby Stouts testimony near the end. It was about three days after they had moved him out of intensive care when they moved him into a private room. and he had the knife and I had the gun and we just kind of stood there for a minute and then my mom came in the back door and he turned around and 1 saw her and she was real panic-stricken and everything and so I shot him twice. David Lancaster had wanted to do what was right for Lucindas appellate chances, and it was a fact that he was dog tired the evening he had to argue Lucindas case. Swingers club and swapping. Then Lile heard the sound of wood snapping. Robert said that his mother hadnt allowed any members of his fathers side of the family into the house for at least four or five years. By coincidence, Liles service and Spencers wound up being on the same day. Did he hear Bobby Stouts testimony? From its enactment in 1973, Texas procedures for certifying a juvenile offender as an adult were used sparingly and with little publicity. Not the most dramatic movie but, that's ok. But it was him. 2023 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. The plot thickens Last weekend, we shared a story about an Oklahoma University WR/holder that got lit up like a Christmas tree during a bathroom bar fight at an on-campus bar. We pass the witness. After the session, he went for another test. Nick and Monroe scared Lucinda using a Murcilago Matraca, and Spencer then murdered Lucinda not only to save Taylor, but also to save Lucinda from herself. "Vows of Deception" includes a convincing rise-and-fall structure of the central character Lucinda. The murder of Crystal Spencer has it all. Ethnicity White / European Descent Age Range 37 - 46 Height 5' 5" (1m 65cm) Weight 9st. Thats what Lucinda would say she did. How could you tell she wasnt breathing? I felt like I had to be strong and tell him you have to move on.. She said she would get six months and then she would be a free girl, and she could do and say as she wished. They came home about 11 p.m. and began carving the meat. Well, Doctor, if Kozol says that given the best of everything studies, work-ups, prior history, and everything else, that only 38 percent of the time they [sociopaths] could be predicted, would that be wrong? When she came back to the kitchen, she picked up some scraps in the sink to take to the dog. It had even turned brother against brother. I had gone out with maybe one or two girls, Stout admitted. Keep your voice down. Lucinda Stout was handed 99 years in prison for the murder of her mother. We feel like he was a hero even though (Spencer) died. One of General Hospital 's biggest and longest-running characters, Luke Spencer, played by actor Anthony Geary, was laid to rest this week. The appeal of Lucinda Stout was turned down only two months later. I ran home and the police, they were going to be coming over. . She had been stabbed more than 40 times and had a severe injury to her head. On the evening of June 10, Anna said, Lucinda and her father had come to the store about 10 oclock to pick up some meat. The real point, however, was that the case of the State of Texas versus Lucinda Stout challenged the basic assumption of the American legal system where juvenile offenders are concerned: that the age of an offender can mitigate against the offense. Thats the only time? My husband said he got a call, and they said something happened and they think its Lucas, she said. Bethani Puzo used to work on the trails with Lile in his first stint with the county, meaning the two spent hours in the Boulder County wilderness with just each other for company. Nothing can happen to Lucas.'. Sanutti-Spencer said she believes her father was involved. Can a psychiatrist predict future violence in a person with no recorded incident of violent behavior? But his ailment worried him less than the opposing counsel and the judge who was hearing the case. They hadnt pled temporary insanity, justifiable manslaughter or self-defense in the stabbing of Sharon Stout; theyd simply asked the jury to believe the daughter instead of the father. "It's so they can't do it to any other family. . Im going to allow this evidence before the jury. Lancaster slumped in his chair. He knows the chances of that happening, however, fade each day. The past six months had shattered the Stout family: Cousins, uncles, aunts, grandmothers, and even friends had been asked to take sides either for Lucinda or for Bobby. Herbert Spencer, (born April 27, 1820, Derby, Derbyshire, Englanddied December 8, 1903, Brighton, Sussex), English sociologist and philosopher, an early advocate of the theory of evolution, who achieved an influential synthesis of knowledge, advocating the preeminence of the individual over society and of science over religion. Peter Spencer was killed on December 12 while on a hunting trip in Pennsylvania. Yeah, Im finished. That could cut two ways. Lancaster called psychologist George Mount to the stand. Burnham called Dr. James Grigson to the stand. Had you ever talked to Anna about killing your mother or father? Lancaster asked. Were very proud of Lucas. Hes got nothing to lose. Rudee tells everyone she can about Spencer and Lucas Lile. "Spencer" is a horror movie about a fragile woman held captive in a spooky mansion, tormented by sadistic monsters and their treacherous minions. Shes dying. Stout testified that Lucinda refused his pleas for help and said he was going to die, too, even though he offered her money. The Indiana Supreme Court has turned aside the appeal of convicted killer Susan Grund, ending her hopes of a shorter sentence. Gaithers job was to get Lucinda Stout certified as an adult. Proving a previous pattern of lawlessness might be harder, since Luanda Stout had no record of criminal or violent behavior; but the seriousness of the offense matricide would probably compensate for that deficiency. We had a lot of fun.. Likewise, her beauty definitely added to the overall scenery as well. Scattered storms (a few could be severe), mainly in Kentucky. He only knew her six weeks, Rudee said. "Lucinda" is a reference to Cinderella and possibly Lucifer. Lucinda ran out of the kitchen into the living room. He opened the door and his wife fell on top of him. Some of these questions would be raised in the trial of Luanda Stout. But there was one missing link. I did it. Lara is a mom to kids, 'Mandalorian' star Pedro Pascal, creators on new Grogu revelations and 'Last of Us' comparisons, Saved by the bell: Contestant ordered to keep mask on, in historic 'Masked Singer' first, Chris Pine admits 'it does look' like Harry Styles spit on him but this is what actually happened, Rebel Wilson 'collapsed' after Ramona Agruma proposal: 'I was so overwhelmed', Amy Grant recalls being 'so scared' to return to touring following serious bike accident. Not long afterward, to Matt's horror, his best friend and Lucinda are subsequently married. He is not, however, one of Henry Wades hanging judges; he is too politically astute for that. He came home and thats when he just fell apart. No, sir. Did you ever try to get her an attorney? He felt so bad because he couldnt save her. And there he is holding her in his arms and then helping me and the family., The fact that he died is hard to understand. Lucinda arrived a few minutes later, bent over him and said, Daddy, I love you. Yes. Grigson had been appointed to test Lucinda Stout only to assist the juvenile court to determine her competency, maturity, and sophistication. When he subsequently was allowed to testify to her purported sociopathic personality and potential for future violence, the result was a 99-year sentence. Lucinda Strange, 39, was killed March 25, 1990. So if someone took the witness stand and said that you had told them that you had been going with Angela Creed for the last year and a half prior to June of 1977, they wouldnt be telling the truth, would they? Lancaster was glad he didnt have to make final arguments until the morning. I think I told David to leave matters alone. Its shocking what happened.. JeromeStrange said he did not know the people who came to his door to tell him a woman was lying in the road. Now she had had a change of heart; she said she was tired of not telling the truth. Lancaster could only hope the kid would hold up, though Robert had been a reluctant witness from the beginning. Police never found the killer. Lucinda Spencer, 62, was killed Tuesday after a wind gust caused a tree limb to come toppling down on her. This film proves it. 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